Jamaica Plain Whole Foods Activists Regroup After Ugly Meeting

A proposed Whole Foods in Jamaica Plain's Hyd Square would take over the land currently occupied by the Hi-Lo supermarket. (David Salafia/Flickr)

A proposed Whole Foods in Jamaica Plain's Hyd Square would take over the land currently occupied by the Hi-Lo Foods. (David Salafia/Flickr)

The fiery neighborhood dispute over a Whole Foods market slated to open this fall in Jamaica Plain may be headed toward a conclusion, according to activists on both sides.

Opponents of the high-end grocer say its arrival will contribute to the trend of gentrification that threatens to displace low-income residents, particularly in the traditionally Latino Hyde Square neighborhood where the market will go. Supporters say Whole Foods will help with the revitalization of the neighborhood.

A vitriolic community meeting ended in the arrest of three protesters last Thursday, and in the week since, some activists have begun to reexamine the tenor of the debate.

A Heated Public Debate

Representatives from Whole Foods held a long-awaited community forum at the Curley School, a few blocks down Centre Street from where the new store is headed. Video from multiple sources is available on YouTube, making it clear that things went off the rails pretty quickly.

“Yeah it was quite a meeting,” Rick Stockwood said, chuckling.

Stockwood is the founder of Jamaica Plain For All, a pro-Whole Foods group. He says he was eager to finally get some neighborhood questions answered.

“Questions about things that we knew are legitimate concerns, such as parking and traffic,” Stockwood said. “And there was clearly a group of people there that were there for the purpose of causing a distraction.”

Opponents, however, deny that charge. Chloe Frankel, a volunteer with Whose Foods?/Whose Community?, an anti-Whole Foods group, says that tempers at the meeting did escalate.

“I do want to say, very clearly, that it was not our intention to get arrested,” Frankel said. “It was also not our intention to stir up the degree of frenzy that ended up getting stirred up. Things were already kind of at a fever pitch, and there was a pretty heavy police presence.”

As shouting matches erupted from both sides in the auditorium, Frankel and another activist entered the upper balcony and hung a banner reading “Displacement. What is Whole Foods going to do about it?” Frankel says she intended the action as a peaceful and relatively unobtrusive way to register her opinion.

“We weren’t planning to storm the microphone, or to storm the presenters,” Frankel said.

But Boston police didn’t see it that way. Frankel and her compatriots were led away in handcuffs and officers shut down the meeting shortly thereafter. Frankel says the episode marked a turning point for her.

“I really stopped and stepped back and made a real conscious decision, actually, to slow down a little bit and to really think about different ways to engage people around this issue,” Frankel said.

For his part, Stockwood with the pro-Whole Foods group is now predicting a slow retreat among the hardcore opposition.

They are “as they’ve been referenced lately, a lot of 20-something-year-old white kids who look at this as a great opportunity to take down Whole Foods,” Stockwood said. “I don’t think think a lot of them see it as a long-term issue for them, it’s a short-term issue, and they’ll graduate and move off to wherever. There are a number of us who own property that’ll be in the neighborhood for the next 20, 30, 40 years that will have to live with those consequences.”

Indeed, Frankel fits the description of a white, 20-something student. But Whose Foods?/Whose Community?, her organization, identifies itself as a multi-generational, multi-ethnic coalition.

A Community Market

Regardless, both Frankel and Stockwood say their respective organizations need to better serve the people who will be most affected by Whole Foods: the low-income, and significantly Latin-American, inhabitants of Hyde Square, where Whole Foods is replacing Hi-Lo Foods, a long-standing Latin market.

Veteran neighborhood activist Claudio Martinez got some shouts of support when he took the mic at last week’s meeting. That is, until he turned to address the largely white crowd.

“Your paternalistic and condescending attitudes, sometimes dressed in progressive and radical attire, towards Latinos in our neighborhoods, are insulting to many of us,” Martinez told the crowd.

Many people in the audience didn’t exactly warm to that opinion.

“There was certainly a lot of irony in that moment,” Martinez said later. “The people screaming at me were, in fact, the pro-Whole Foods crowd.”

On his back porch about a block south of Hyde Square, Martinez admitted he has his problems with the pro-Whole Foodies, describing some of their attitudes toward low-income Latinos as “xenophobic.” But the people he was calling “paternalistic and condescending” were actually the anti-Whole Foodies.

“For the the last three months [they] have been talking about these poor Latinos that cannot defend themselves against Whole Foods so they are gonna come and defend us,” Martinez said.

Nonetheless, college-age liberal whites have been natural allies with Martinez on many a successful civic fight in JP, from keeping out Kmart in the 1990s, to the more recent push to convert former Archdiocese property into affordable housing instead of having it sold to the highest bidder. But Martinez thinks anti-Whole Foods activists have a lot to learn from that history.

“Just mobilization and protesting are not enough to get things done,” Martinez said. “They need to be done in a context of current political realities.”

And the reality, according to Martinez, is that Whole Foods is coming in the fall. The question now is whether they’ll hire people from the neighborhood and whether they’ll offer Latin-American staples at an affordable price.

Those are objectives that anti-Whole Foods activist Chloe Frankel says she helped further when she hung that banner at last week’s rowdy meeting.

“I do think there’s a sense that after June 2, the stakes were raised a little bit,” Frankel said. “If nothing else, Whole Foods has a real sense that there remains significant opposition to their coming in. So the way I see that is that it does create more hoops for them to jump through.”

And in so jumping, Frankel hopes Whole Foods will be compelled to give the community more of what it wants. This is, if the the community can agree on what it wants.

  • Realist

    Hi-Lo was a travesty.   It should have been closed a long time ago. 

    • LeRoy908

      Travesty might be a bit harsh, but the place seemed mismanaged as far as a comfortable shopping environment. Nonetheless, it was institution that had great prices, and a jam-packed parking lot every weekend of the two years that I lived across the street. The customers were loyal and came from far and wide. Despite all this, the owner of Hi Lo elected to close the place down; he was not run-out (as it would seem) by the big bad cooperate grocery store from Texas. Hi-Lo’s owner elected to shut-down the place with little warning to employees (some of who had worked there for over a decade) and cash out. Whole Foods is not to blame here. And between Stop and Shop’s/Shaw’s bland/overpriced fare, I’ll take Whole Foods’ focus on providing local produce and food that is not highly processed. Change is difficult but JP will adapt and grow stronger for it.

  • Circusmcgurkus

    I don’t get it.  It’s a supermarket.  The neighborhood is getting a clean, well run supermarket that notoriously carries fresh fruit, vegetables, sustainable fish, etc.  I get that people are concerned about high prices, but Whole Foods holds their own in Brighton and the Fenway which are both mixed income neighborhoods.  Why are people raising a ruckus over the very same improvement to the neighborhood that associations like Sociedad Latina and others are involved in to increase fresh produce in low income areas?  No one is getting displaced.  No one is being forced to leave.  No one is being forced to shop there if they don’t want to.  It may bring more people into the neighborhood which, generally, is a good thing for lowering crime and increasing business.
    Whole Foods will, in all likelihood, be a good neighbor and provide local employment.  They may provide the incentive for further investment in the neighborhood and raise the standard of living.  That’s not gentritification – that is progress.  Protests for the sake of protests are ridiculous.    

  • Nick Knight

    The argument is keep the neighborhood a dump, with dumpy stores.  That way no one else will want to live there, and keep the prices down. 

  • Shreddnyogi

    What a misguided issue to get behind, by these idiots/ah activists.

  • momahr

    Nothing hat happened at the June 2nd meeting created additional hoops for WFM.  It also did not show WFM that significant opposition exists.  WFM will hire local folks because the lack of parking will drive locals there to apply.  WFM will carry ethnic foods because it will be good for sales.  This is a business and it is good business to sell what your neighborhood wants.  This is not the first time WFM has faced some negativity in the process of opening a store.  They are skilled at opening stores under all kinds of conditions.  It’s what they do.   This may have been amongst the nastier so far, but nothing that creates hoops.  What hoops are you talking about?

  • WhitePeopleAsSaviors

    Ms. Frankel wrote:
    “I do think there’s a sense that after June 2, the stakes were raised a
    little bit,” Frankel said. “If nothing else, Whole Foods has a real
    sense that there remains significant opposition to their coming in. So
    the way I see that is that it does create more hoops for them to jump
    through.”
    +
    Ah yes. Good old-fashioned, mafia-style extortion.

    BTW, what percentage of JP’s 30,000+ population opposing Whole Foods would constitute as “significant opposition”? Or is it just a small minority shouting the loudest?

    • Petergriffith5

      Clearly the You Tube videos along with the resignation of at least two members of the JPNC study committee shows that the Whose Foods folks have overstepped their bounds.  The fact that Ms. Frankel indicates that they are re-accessing there approach, perhaps shows that they realize that they have lost the fight.

      The strong arm tactics of hijacking the public meeting and by some accounts the study committee meetings appears to have done little more than discredit themselves as honest participants in a community that values civic engagement.

      Hopefully, the folks who are young, idealistic students will take a lesson from this to respect other folks who have different positions and beliefs.  To be truly progressive, the first lesson is to listen to other voices.  Blue-shirted young people marching up and down aisles waving blue sheets of paper while shouting down different voices persuades no one.

  • JLJP

    Why is anyone still giving Whose Foods / Whose Community any press or media attention? As the Mayor said, this is a small, misguided group. They have no clear representation, no clear purpose and certainly have not been forthcoming about their supposed signatures.

    • Aragusea

      I think this is a fair question that I want to address directly.

      I’m honestly not sure how much longer I, as one member of the press, am going to keep paying attention to Whose Foods. I don’t have a sense that their support is building, which is part of what this story of mine is about. But they did make quite a splash last week, and I wanted to get a sense of the fallout. Chloe Frankel, whether you agree with her or not, was a very thoughtful and considered interview. I feel like I understand her and Whose Foods better now.

      That said, we don’t cover people just because they’re loud. That’s why WBUR usually doesn’t cover the Westboro Baptist Church when they come to Boston (not to compare the WBC with Whose Foods). Unless Whose Foods can manifestly impact events or demonstrate a meaningful growth in their support, I doubt you’ll see another Whose Foods story from me.

      That said, I should tell you that, as a journalist, my default position is to be extremely skeptical when people dismiss the other side of an argument as coming from a “vocal minority.” Opposition to the Vietnam War was routinely dissmissed as such (again, not to draw the comparison). Every grassroots movement begins as a vocal minority. Will Whose Foods ever graduate to a majority? I don’t know. But I’m going to keep my eye on them, as will my counterparts at other organizations.

      • JLJP

        Adam, thanks for the reply. As a homeowner within ear shot of the new Whole Foods, I must admit that this “debate” has become exhausting and having to defend my right to live in this neighborhood over the past 5 months leads me to come at this issue on the defensive. May I suggest a story in the future about all of the positive groups and businesses in the Hyde Jackson neighborhood and greater JP who are doing good things everyday to help improve the quality of life for everyone here?

        • Aragusea

          I absolutely understand. I have heard many people, from Julio Varela to Claudio Martinez to Rick Stockwood, argue that all of the civic energy that’s been generated by this episode needs to be channeled into something of benifit to the neighborhood that can transcend Whole Foods. If people find instances of that happening, I’d love to hear about it.

          • AntiHipster

            “Chloe Frankel, whether you agree with her or not, was a very thoughtful and considered interview. I feel like I understand her and Whose Foods better now.”

            So, you now understand that they are a group composed almost exclusively of 20-something socialist hipsters who think they have the right to speak for an entire community when most of them have lived there for a year or 2?

          • Aragusea

            For the record, Chloe told me she’s lived in JP for 4 years. 

            To your larger point, I don’t know the complete demographic rundown of the group, and I don’t think you do either. It is diffuse and non-hierarchical, thus it’s hard to know what’s going on inside of it.

            I do think people have the right to participate in the civic life of their communities, regardless of how long they’ve lived there or how ironic their spectacles are. I’m guessing you agree with that much.But, you think people like Chloe should defer a little more to people who might be more rooted in the community. So does Rick Stockwood, and it’s a perfectly valid opinion, which is why I put it in the story. 

  • Anonymous

    These people need to get a grip. It’s a private business matter and Whole Foods has as much right as Stop and Shop to have a store in JP. I’m not a fan of Whole Foods as company, but that’s a separate issue to this nonsense. Neighborhoods change, get over it.

  • Juliette

    Adam, did you cover that meeting as part of this story? just curious if you heard about how it went or if you were there. It was quite a scene. thanks!

    • Aragusea

      No Juliette, I wasn’t there. My story references reports from the Patch and Universal Hub and incorporates audio from the many videos on YouTube.

      • Juliette

        thanks. I was just wondering if you had still been following what was going on with whose foods and so had planned on going, or if the news about that night inspired this piece. Thanks for answering!

        • Juliette

          I meant thanks answering that last question. I wasn’t demanding a response to this, just kind of thinking out loud.

        • Aragusea

          Sure. I’ve kept my eye on it, but obviously the neighborhood press are better suited to cover the blow-by-blow. I had planned to attend the June 2 meeting myself but got stuck at the station on a late deadline.

  • MMJP1972

     Are you serious Adam? A group protesting a grocery store is a
    grassroots “movement”? This group was formed around that and nothing
    else. A grocery store! not a war, not civil rights, not even against
    violence in our neighborhood. a grocery store! But most
    importantly, this is group claims they’re protesting this grocery store
    on behalf of someone else’s culture . Mr. Martinez finds it offensive
    and
    there are many other Latinos in this community that do as well. Basta!

    • Aragusea

      Well, I didn’t call Whose Foods a grassroots movement. I said, generally, that “every grassroots movement begins as a vocal minority.”

      Apart from that, I do think Whose Foods qualifies as grassroots, by any definition. Is it also a movement? Perhaps that’s a grandiose characterization, but I think you and I both know this is about more than a grocery store.

      • AntiHipster

        “ Is it also a movement? Perhaps that’s a grandiose characterization, but I think you and I both know this is about more than a grocery store. ”

        I would say it qualifies as a “bowel movement”, so yes, technically, it’s a movement.

        • Aragusea

          Let’s try to keep it reasonably clean and respectful, gang.

  • purplehydrangea

    I’m a Latina who has lived in JP since I was 13 years old and came with my family and we moved to Forbes St.  I remember when that market was called something else and then it gradually turned into a Latino market. Throughout it all, it was a dumpy place, not well kept up because, hey, Latinos liked it right?  WRONG!  I remember my father, when he still lived in Boston, going up to the long-time manager, an American who used to go to Blessed Sacrament where we went.  My father, in his heavy accented English, said to him:  “why don yu cleen up dis place? yu sink jispanos are dirty?   It didn’t work, right?   Still, I had affection for Hi-Lo only because they did carry a lot of things from all over the Caribbean and even Africa.  Several times I took my Spanish class, adults and children, to do a scavenger hunt and for them to learn especially about Latino fruits and vegetables.  So the whole mess around whole foods is bittersweet for me.  Like another Latina woman i know from the neighborhood said to me, what did Hi-Lo foods ever do for us?  where was the little league team?  where were the contributions to Neighborhood events?  The other thing I find odd is all the talk about gentrification, like it was new….JP was gentrified back in the 90′s and it’s never looked back.  Latinos and others that can’t afford to buy have held on by the skin of their teeth and then eventually either move to Hyde Park or Roslindale.  I’m still here because I was lucky to buy in the slump of the mid-90″s….Now, as a school teacher I could never come up with 20% of anything.  Personally, I rarely go to Whole Foods because I can’t afford it so I made do by buying at Trader Joe’s and Stop & Shop.  When I splurge, I go to Roche Brothers, they have a good selection of the good stuff and they have a tradition of giving back…m aybe not to JP but somewhere else.  Plus, I’m always impressed by the diversity of the workers.   If Roche Brothers was the one moving in, I would be happy.  right now, I’m just concerned about traffic and the waste of energy around this issue. 

  • Budjim

     Those slinging around TJ as an alternative should ask TJ why they did not seek space in JP before this.  Maybe it does not fit their West Coast white folk demographic.   At least WF embraced the demographic,  will be opening up a clean store, hopefully providing some jobs (with benefits?) for locals and  continue to improve the area.    I have an idea for the people behind whose food.  Why not put your energy toward something where you’ll make a real difference.  Like resurrecting  the trolley track debate so no one will ever drive down Centre st again or increasing the size and speed of the buses on Centre St.    I am sure WBUR will continue to follow your story if you opt for those sizable social issues.  

    • purplehydrangea

      Wow Budjim – nuance is not your strong suit.  Did you really read my message? 

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