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Are Psychiatric Medications Causing More Mental Illness?

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A special report on WBUR’s CommonHealth blog pits two prominent adversaries against each other on an important issue.

A local science journalist and author, Robert Whitaker, says in his recent book, “Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Durgs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America,” that the long-term use of these popular psychiatric medications is actually causing more mental illness — not less.

Whitaker says his research which examines for the first time the long-term effects of psychiatric drugs, shows that these medications are often making diseases such as depression and schizophrenia worse, not better. He points to a major increase in the number of people getting federal disability benefits for mental illness who are taking these medications as a sign that the drugs are, in fact, contributing to chronic mental illness in America. For example, Whitaker points out that between 1987 and 2007, “the number of disabled mentally ill children rose thirty-five fold.”

Whitaker’s claims are refuted by academic psychiatrists here in Boston.

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  • Chuck

    I have ADD. Before being diagnosed and treated I graduated from college Phi Beta Kappa. Now with ADD meds, I can’t read more than 4 pages a day.

    With my anti-depressants I’m more depressed than I have ever been, and I’ve tried about 20 different ones.

    I have ADD, OCD, and depression.

    • vrth

      THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE: GET OFF THE DRUGS.

      • Duane Sherry, M.S.

        The answer is to get off the drugs – slowly and safely.
        A good book on the subject is by Psychiatrist, Peter Breggin, M.D. and David Cohen, Ph.D. -
        ‘Your Drug May be Your Problem: How and Why to Stop Psychiatric Medications -

        http://www.amazon.com/Your-Drug-May-Problem-Psychiatric/dp/0738203483

        My best,

        Duane Sherry, M.S.
        discoverandrecover.wordpress.com

        • Tph370

          Your comment mentions some credible people against psychiatry, however, it is frustrating how they are not providing an alternative to a psych ward when I person in on the edge of suicide.  I am providing such a place, providing empathy with few words, as it spurs the emotions necessary to can jump start the energies of life.

  • amanda

    i was put on several medications for depression and remained on the drugs for several years all the while going to a pyschotherapist once per week. when the time came for me to stop taking those drugs i was told that i would need other meds to help curb the side effects of withdrawl. lexapro was the most debilitating with respect to withdrawl symptoms…it took about 6 months. while i found benefits (coping with stress) to taking some of the SSRIs it was really shocking how much my brain chemistry had changed due to the dosage.

  • Angie

    Maybe the parents are trying to get SSI dollars and they get a diagnosis for their kids. Then they get on disability list to get the money.

  • Catherine

    A caller just mentioned that Ritalin was prescribed by his PCP. A friend of mine was prescribed Prozac by her PCP for “seasonal affectation disorder. It seemed fairly obvious to her friends that she was depressed over some severe financial troubles. Could the rise in disabling mental illness be connected to drugs being used as a bandaid by generalists? It seems that the drugs might be being used in lieu of a referral to a specialist who might give more comprehensive treatment.

  • Jo Gent

    Saying that significant portions of our children and adults are mentally ill enough to need meds implies that a significant portion of us are not normal. If most of us are abnormal, that’s the new normal. More likely, we too quickly reach for meds in the US. It’s ok for children to be active and for adults to sometimes be sad. I also am skeptical that the billions of dollars to be made on these meds are completely unrelated to our demand. How to other Western countries compare?

  • Bill

    I have bipolar anxiety and depression and have been on dozen of drug with dozens of combinations. I do feel that medication is a part of treatment but is by know means the answer to my problems. I dont feel comfortable just getting off my meds but do struggle with the fact that i have been on medication since i was 9 (now 22) and am curious about the long term health effects these medications have?

    • MarilynL577

      I honestly believe my breast cancer was caused by being on Lamictal and Celexa for about 5 years. Breast tumors are a side effect of celexa (thank you Freedom of Information Act) and Lamictal causes a lot of women to suddenly go from a c-cup to a dd-cup, so obviously it messes with hormones, probably prolactin, estrogen or something else that can make boobs grow. I have been on about 20 psych drugs from the age of 12 until 2 years ago. I’m 36 now. I’ve been off them for almost 2 years and I’m happier than I’ve ever been even though I now have cancer. It’s not “hypomania” that I have,lol. Just good old fashioned happiness that was suppressed by ppl who don’t like us rebellious types because we’re a threat to the agenda, by putting them on mental illness CAUSING drugs so they’ll look justified calling us “crazies” when we don’t follow the rest of the herd over the cliff.

      • Tph370

        Thank you for sharing your story; for, it effected my brain chemistry in a natural way, and it is on a much deeper level than any “mental illness CAUSING drug” of psychiatry.

  • Bobj

    Seems to me, based on the arguments being posited, that the broad brush being painted by Dr Whitaker ignores the specificity of a patients prescription by A specific doctor. Good or bad. While there may be an issue in proper diagnosis and appropriately prescribed drugs per patient, to summarize the drugs as the cause seems both potentially dangerous and ignorant of A specific patients needs.

  • Rachel

    I think we all need to pay more attention to Angie and Catherine’s comments about the greater problem of the state of our health care system. There are not enough mental health specialists and too much incentive for SSI. Perhaps we should pay more attention to society’s role in this epidemic and not blame our limited knowledge for our problems.

    Additionally, I would strongly urge those interested to read Judith Warner’s “We’ve Got Issues” for an alternative view of our psychopharmocological treatments.

  • Jenn Clark

    Jenny Clark,
    “The Cure is worst than the disease.” ~Latin Phrase
    Just turn 30 years old, and according to my PCP I suffer from severe anxiety, PTS, & clinical depression. The prescribe treatment: 6 different medications that the side affects are worst than the actual disorders. it has been almost two years since I stop the meds I chosed to treat my mental disorder with organic foods and plenty of exercise. I refused to harm my physical being in trying to cure/control a mental disorter. -J

  • Bryan

    Robert Whitaker’s interpretation of studies that show people who go off of medication have better long term prognoses is fundamentally flawed. He has so far failed to acknowledge that people who go off of medication may have less severe disease than those who stay medicated. Since their disorder is less severe, they are more likely to stop medication and more likely to have an improved prognosis. On the other side, those with more severe disorders may need to remain medicated and the severity of their disease may mean that their long term prognosis will never approach that of a person who’s underlying disorder was less severe to begin with.

  • jennifer

    Dr. Wittaker has clearly established a link between medication and dissability and decreased long term outcomes, but I have yet to hear him discuss causality. It would seem that there are many other possible explanations for this link such as the increased availability of drugs would also make it easier to go on dissability and not have to work?

  • http://www.fibrowitch.net fibrowitch

    I have lupus. Doctors have been trying for years to give me psychiatric medications. While having lupus is depressing (constant pain, early painful death) I don’t want to take pills that will ‘make me feel better’. Unless your giving me a drug that will stop my own bodies attempt to kill me. Cure lupus and I’ll be the happiest person on the planet. Not manic happy, but happy non the less.

  • Beth

    I’m surprised that more wasn’t made of the power of the pharmaceutical industry vis a vis these drugs. The pharma industry the source and funder of physicians’ CE (continuing education). Plus drug reps lobby aggressively and spend tons of money to get doctors to write scripts for their drugs.

  • Julia Sher

    I’m shocked Dr. Whitaker is being taken so seriously at all. His premise is not rational. Dr. Neiremberg’s analogy was about accidents was good, but even more on point would be analogizing it to Cancer treatment. The more insidious the case, the more aggressively (and longer) its treated – and you are less likely to have a positive outcome. Of course its no one’s preference to take medications that can have nasty side effects, but its all a risk/benefit analysis one has to make with their doctor. Every caller who was anti-medication could be easily rebutted, eg; if a bi-polar patient is given an anti-depressant without a mood stabilizer, they will likely become manic (and possibly suicidal) – - If your doctor seems not to care about you, get a new doctor. I am amazed in this day and age there are still people out there trying to preach that psychiatric medications are not helpful. this guy is dangerous to many truly ill people.

    • Tph370

      Julia, psychiatry merely guesses as to what drug(s) to use; so, I think Whitaker is just as qualified with his alternative approach which is away from psychiatric stigmas, and toward compassion and empathy which can naturally effect brain chemistry.  It has been my experience that simply being with a person in a suicidal crisis can triggers buried emotions that move them to emotional balance and normalcy.

  • Aaron

    I have battled depression and my brother still contends with ADD. Our reactions to medications have been wildly different, but we both find that the side effects are extremely negative in our cases. However, my brother was diagnosed at a much earlier age while my medication didn’t start until much later in my brain development.

    Aren’t we, as a people, a little bit afraid of the long term effects of changing brain chemistry while the brain is still in its most critical stages of development? Further, I question why it seems that Dr. Whitaker must bear the burden of proof that medicating psychiatric problems may not always be good. Shouldn’t the burden of the efficacy of procedures that alter brain chemistry be on the providers that push them? Finally, when I was prescribed anti-depressant medication, I was told that I would have to just guess and check because we had little way of really telling the affect of medications on my mind. When I came of the pills that I took to make my reality less intense, I rewarded myself each day with the thought that once again, my mind would be mine and not the play thing of someone whose investment in me might be defined with by a dollar symbol.

  • Rachel

    Please note that Robert Whitaker is not a doctor and is representing a journalistic viewpoint to this issue.

    • Tph370

      Psychiatrist are not doctors either, this, in a sense of using medical tests that can prove in an exact way the inner workings of the human brain, they are only guessing as to which drug(s) to use.

  • Julia S

    Thank you for pointing that out, Rachel. Now I think he’s even more irresponsible.

  • Chuck

    Why is it even legal for a PCP to prescribe psychiatric meds? PCPs have an important role to play in our health care system, but a lot of people go to them for ailments for which they really need a specialist.

    Or is it really the stigma of seeing a psychiatrist? I once met someone who balked at the idea of taking “psychiatric medications,” but then said she took anti-depressants.

    She wasn’t a retard. She was an idiot.

  • John

    To those advocating for medication, I would like to suggest you try these medications. I suggest you need to experience the effects of serotonin toxicity and the potential deadly effects of neuroleptic malignant syndrome to understand exactly what you are advocating. Also be aware as your trying these medication they may permanently alter your brain structure. You may never be the same which in your cases might be for the better.

    I’m going to speak as one who is seriously mentally ill, one who has been on some of the most powerful antipsychotics that are available, one who has experienced serotonin toxicity and neuroleptic malignant syndrome and most important one who can speak as a patient. For the seriously mentally ill, medications don’t work, it doesn’t stop the psychosis, the depression or the anxiety. Basically, medication disable you mentally. You become helpless and let me tell you that is the worse feeling in the world. You, the public, may feel safer with a violent psychotic like myself medicated but my life isn’t worth your safety.

    There are many people on psychiatric medication that shouldn’t be medicated. Not everyone is seriously mentally ill, refractory, medication resistant. However, everyone is being treated as though they are seriously mentally ill. Once you are medicated here, you are medicated for life. That is just wrong. After a few years of being medicated, you are not taking someone off these medications– it is too late. Their brains have been permanently altered. Psychiatric medicine has created a monster and I have no idea how to fix it. I just know it sucks being on this side of the problem.

    • npkjrwxz

      I have severe and persistent MI as well. I am able to live in society and not put others in danger. I have seen too many violent criminals try to persuade judges to show lieniency for anti social behavior. My ex just got put away finally, 25yrs for gouging a mans eye out. Enough was enough. All violent men should be tagged, medicated, and watched.

      • MarilynL577

        I didn’t let my violent 16 year old son get medicated. For one thing, what was pissing him off and making him violent was witnessing bullying being done to kids who were scared and wouldn’t fight back…so my kid would ambush the bully after class and kick his ass. I’m actually proud of that. I let him talk to a therapist and I sacrificed time and money to get him out of the environment where the A&F and Hollister wearing little idiots liked to bully kids who didn’t have what they had, while neglecting their grades, all the while they and their parents being too ignorant to see that those very behaviors were what would lead them down the road to the not-so-enchanted lands of Loserville and Dumbassdale. I got permission for him to attend a school we aren’t zoned for, where apparently most of the kids are focused on academic achievements, and the ones who aren’t are at least intelligent enough to leave people the hell alone. They’ll go off to their fast food “careers” and move into the trailer park we used to live in, and mine will graduate with honors, titles, and academic achievements, spring break in Dublin and London (a trip for only the English IB students of his school, go on a full academic scholarship for his degree, attend tech for a certificate in a skilled trade as backup (because sometimes what you got your degree in just isn’t what’s hiring), and settle down wherever he chooses…oh I forgot to mention that he will already have a certificate from vocational school (attended for half the day during junior & senior year) upon graduation. So no, every violent man should not be medicated. Some of them need only to be removed from the ridiculous BS surrounding them, and placed among people more like them.

        • Tph370

          I honor your passion, so necessary, to fight against the seductions of a most powerful force: psychiatry.  Of which, uses its labels, while guessing around with brain chemistry, to stigmatically control its victims for a lifetime.

    • MarilynL577

      I could like your comment a million times dude! Especially the last sentence of the first paragraph.lol

  • http://www.chrisahickey.com Chrisa Hickey

    My son has refractory, med resistant, early onset Schizoaffective Disorder, Bipolar Type.

    We refused to medicate him until he tried to kill himself.

    At age 8.

    We took him off meds again from 11-12. We only tried them again when his psychosis was so intense he required inpatient hospitalizations – 5 in a year.

    Parents don’t WANT to put their kids on psychotropic medication.

    Oh – FYI. My kid doesn’t qualify for SSI because of my income. Think, Angie, before you type.

    Try reading Judith Warner’s book, We’ve Got Issues.

    • MarilynL577

      My son was having problems (he hated bullies and when he saw bullying taking place he had a violent urge to pummel the bully in the head a good 20 times before a teacher could get to him…that he acted on) with anger. I have acquired a list of about 7 “disorders” and thought “oh crap…he inherited “chemical imbalances” from me!” I wasn’t yet aware of the reality because I was “in treatment” (Lamictal & Celexa) for my “mental illnesses” so I took him to talk to the mental health ppl, but resisted medication. I changed his environment instead. While I’ve been out of treatment and off the psycho drugs he has attended an International Baccalaureate high school, not one fight, he’s being inducted into National Honor Society tomorrow. I found out on May 6th that I have breast cancer, the next day was my bday, but I’m happier right now with the cancer that the psycho drugs probably caused than I ever was with “harmaceutical help” and he is doing better than he would be doing if I had went in willing to let them put him on their crap. I explained before I even made the appt for him that we should avoid meds because they want you to stay on them for life and they could have bad side effects like suicide…now I have a better view of the big picture. Thank God that even though I wasn’t fully aware of “the machine” something inside was steering me in the right direction for me and my son. :)

  • http://moonlight975424.wordpress.com Loretta Wilson

    Now it makes perfect sense to say, I went to sleep in my 40′s and awakened only to find that I had aged and am nearing 70. The side effects of psych drugs were horrendous at best. The drugs clouded my ability to think. It now appears they hampered my ability to remember those years as well. My suspicions about the drugs being the CAUSE and not a cure, thus ECT, is now validated. The drugs made it difficult to form new memories, while Electroshock destroyed much of what I had.

    When I was being treated, I was given 17 different labels. Over 35 different drugs were prescribed, much of the time combined in “Drug Cocktails”. Since the side effects were so problematic and the ECT so destructive, the time came when I felt; I either have to get over this, or I have to get it over with (statement in medical record).

    I am so thankful that God knew the end from the beginning and I am well today in spite of psychiatry!
    Actually, it is quite comforting to read from the writings of Robert Whitaker. Thank you Sir!

  • blythebarne

    There can be a difference between what you and a health insurance company consider healthy. Some insurers will say that you have a health condition if you smoke, are overweight, are taking prescriptions, or had a medical condition in the past. If this describes you, you may want to search and read “Wise Health Insurance” on the web.

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  • http://1prophetspeaks.com 1prophetspeaks.com

    I once had a dr testify that ‘schizo-affective” is a label we use for someone we don’t know what else to call. The hospitals hold people for long period of time just to get the insurance money; it is slavery. they label everyone because they need a diagnosis to do it. I have been on the anti-psychotics & the side effects can be torture. they are what drive some people to suicide & violence. Psychiatry is atheism masquerading as science: they define spiritual experiences and beliefs as symptoms of psychosis. Most people called ‘schizophrenic’ are not ill; they are Christians. 90% of the psych patients are christians. 90% of the drs are atheists. the problem is theological, not biological. Read my free book about atheistic psychiatry & their toxic drugs & how to heal mental & physical illness thru prayer; MANUAL FOR TRANSFORAMTIONAL HEALING-GOD’S ANSWER TO PSYCHIATRY AT 1prophetspeaks.com

    The solution to the damage done by the drugs is to pray for God to heal you; he can.

    The bible says mental & physical illness is caused by demonic oppression; Jesus cast out demons and gave his followers authority to do it. It works. All drugs are openings for demonic oppression; this includes caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, pot, lsd etc & all psych meds. THis is why the psych meds cause mental illness rather than help. 1prophetspeaks.com

  • joanne

    From my experience, I have learned some doctors listen, but some doctors don’t. Learning to speak up for myself and really stick to what I am trying to explain, have many times not been taken seriously. These doctors were educated at Harvard and some did internships at Beth Isrel. Not to name name, but How much do you really know about the doctor? Are they willing to talk about themselves?

  • joanne

    the important thing about doctors is : do they listen, truly listen and take you seriously. Are they willing to talk about their background, where they interned, where they went to school ? Some doctors listen, and some have pat answers. Sometimes its the luck of the draw when you don’t have someone assisting you who the doctor takes seriously. Bottom line is, do they respect where you’re coming from.

  • Patrick Tracey

    I’m looking for somebody who hears voices to come on a TV show called Hearing Voices, preferably with your family. The show is production of JWM Productions, which has produced award-winning shows for the Discovery Channel, the History Channel, and the National Geographic Channel. I am a journalist and author with many people in my family who hear voices. I am slated to be the host.

    The show does not stress the mainstream medical model that tends to pathologize the experience of auditory hallucination. The emphasis is on improvement and recovery.

    Hearing Voices takes the view that many more people have the experience than would care to admit it, due to stigmatization, and that hearing voices does not make you crazy. In fact most are quite sane.

    However, the show does not flinch from the fact that these voices can be hellish. The show simply emphasizes nonjudgmental, compassionate listening to people who hear voices to break down the stigma that comes from a society that shuns it, a media that sensationalizes it, and a mental health care system that largely fails it.

    We have a lot of it in my family, so this show is looking for other familes and people who hear voices to talk with me and my family about the experience openly and without fear of judgment or ridicule.

    It won’t be easy to come on TV to speak about it. That’s a very courageous step. But my family is out in the open with it and so we seek another family that’s out in the open with it to help us break the stigma.

    Kindly respond to Patrick Tracey at hearingvoicesshow@gmail.com

    • vrth

      It is quite normal for people to hear voices – subpersonality structure of the mind in voice dialogue. The personality structure is compartmentalised and really, a multi-structure, multi-faceted overall ego. We have parts of our personality of which contradict another part and so on… This is the normal workings of the mind. Urge you to check out the work of Dr.Stan Grof with regards to ‘transpersonal psychology’, and also Dr.Hal/Sidra Stone’s Voice Dialogue.

  • http://www.addictionwatch.com R NewmanII

    All drugs are toxins and have toxics effects on the body. While sometimes drugs are needed, only a very small percentage of people need them for mental problems. There are better ways to handle mood swings, anxiety, and depression that do not have the side effects. Please check out. http://www.breggin.com or http://www.drugawareness.org

  • Suz

    There are deep and unhealthy ties between the pharmaceutical industry and academic psychiatry. For example, I have heard that Dr. Nierenberg, who is debating Mr. Whitaker in this interview, receives or received support from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Eli Lilly, Forest Laboratories, GlaxoSmithKline, Janssen Pharmaceutica, Lichtwer Pharm, Pfizer, and Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories to name a few.

    Can we really trust academic psychiatrists to faithfully serve two masters – both Truth and drug money?

  • jungle

    Psychiatry is quackery.
    It is all about the money.
    It would be naive to think
    that all the pharma companies do is care about you.

  • Patty

    I think Robert Whitaker’s thoughts about mental health treatment is mostly correct. It squares with my family’s experience, as one example. I also read his book. It is very clear, in any case, that psychiatrists breeze by any concerns about damage that these medications can cause, and make false promises about how effective the treatments will be – as if you will be all better when you take them.

    I ran out of treatment options for bipolar disorder aftermore than 10 years, trying more than 20 medications alone and in combinations, at varying dosages, and ECT. I consulted several psychiatrists thru the years, some at prestigious hospitals. I was in the hospital every year, and fought suicide daily. I felt this intense need to claw my face off, or stab my chest open with scissors, for hours most every day. Finally, I gave up, decided to be nice to my husband for one year and go fishing with him a lot, then hang myself at the end of that year. I tapered off the medications because they didn’t help and they made me so cognitively impaired that I couldn’t control my behavior & made me verbally aggressive (my doc knew I was doing this).

    I’ve been off meds for 9 months now, and I am functioning better than I have for many years (but not as well as I did before I took any meds), and my husband, therapist and social worker are very happy I am not taking pills. I get in few arguments anymore – I got my normal temperament back, like I was before meds. I’m still terribly depressed and not able to work a paid job, but I no longer feel the intense need to claw my face off. It appears that many psych drugs thru the years have caused this side effect (and a bunch of other horrible ones, like severe weight gain and violent nightmares etc). I’m thinking akathisia maybe.

    My brother had different awful problems. He got disfiguring neurological problems, most likely from lithium – he barks like a dog, his body jerks, etc – tardive tourette’s disorder. The brain damage is permanent. Now he is terribly embarrassed in addition to coping with bipolar.

    It turns out I was going to kill myself because of my pills’ horrible emotional and behavioral side effects. I couldn’t handle the internal grinding feeling, and the frequent arguments with my spouse were devastating. Both those problems are gone, now. Took about 3 months, I think.

    I loved Robert Whitaker’s book, which I read a few months after I gave up on the pills. I have a math degree, so his analysis was very pleasing to me. Medical studies are designed very poorly and one university I went to offered FREE help from the math department so the medical dept. would do studies that weren’t so embarrassing. The math dept. had a statistics PhD student set aside just for this purpose and NOBODY took advantage of the free help. When I took statistics at a different university, medical studies were usually the examples we used of poor study design – flawed from the beginning.

    Interestingly, I thought many of these meds were helping me, at least initially, but when I went back thru years of psychiatric records and put my mood cycles on a graph, it became clear to me that my moods cycle with the seasons and sunny/overcast weather, and my psychiatrist and I were giving credit to the medications when it was “normal” bipolar mood cycling. Anyone with fluctuating symptoms should chart them over time – you will never, ever figure it out otherwise. I think a lot of depressed people get fooled by their pills in this way, and when they get depressed again, they think the pill’s effect wore off, but it never worked to begin with.

  • http://chas96099.tripod.com Charles Hughes

    Psych meads are not what they are cracked up to be. Most psych meds will make you paranoid and delusional. Makes for rich Dr and screwed up America.

    In my case along with many others we where horribly abused in a very religious surrounding. I grow up in an orphanage in Inglewood California that was ran buy conservative evangelical Baptist. It was during the height of the cold war. When every one was up tight about the threat of world inhalation. I was placed there by the States Child Protection Department because my father had died and my mother was not able to care of us 3 boys. The “childrens homes” called CBH only haired Evangelical types that had had children of there own. They was supposedly screened to prevent any perverts or weirdos. During the time I was there 1956 to 1962 from age 6 to just before my 13th Birthday. It was very stressful times for everyone in America and Europe with the constant nuclear threat. It may sound strange now days but everyone was preoccupied with building bomb shelters and on how to survive the impending nuclear holocaust. No one was concerned that some orphans where being physical or in some cases sexually abused. So all the so called normies that work there was taking out all there frustrations of the world by lining us up and slapping and hitting use kids very chance they got. It wasn’t just the 2 or 3 times a day that we where lined up that we where yield at and slapped around as hared as the 30 to 50 year old could slap us around. Any time your path crossed a staff person they would hall off and slap you across the face as hared as they could. But that was nothing compared to shower time when the House parents would reach their hand into your shower and tern the cold water completely off and the hot water on making you stand there burning in the hot water. They did in order so they could hit you as hared as they can with out leaving any bruises on there of 8 to 12 year old victims. Theses where daily currents for 7 years of my life. As bad as they where they where not as bad as my experiences with treatments for Post Traumatic Stress syndrome. The ETC destroyed me as a person and the medications gave me permanent tardeadiskonesea.

  • http://chas96099.tripod.com Charles Hughes

    Meads are not what they are cracked up to be. Most psych meds will make you paranoid and delusional. All makes for rich Dr and screwed up America.

    In my case along with many others where horribly abused in a very religious surroundings. I grow up in an orphanage in Inglewood California that was ran buy conservative evangelical Baptist. It was during the height of the cold war. When every ones was up tight abut the treat of world inhalation. I was placed there by the States Child Protection Department because my father had died and my mother was not able to care for us 3 boys. The “childrens homes” called CBH only haired Evangelical types that had had children of there own. They supposedly screened to prevent any perverts or weirdoes. During the time I was there 1956 to 1962 from age 6 to just before my 13th Berth day. It was very stressful times for everyone in America and Europe with the constant nuclear threat. It may sound strange now days but everyone was preoccupied with building bomb shelters and on how to survive the impending nuclear holocaust. No one was concerned that some orphans weirs being physical or in some cases sexually abused. So all the so called normies that work there was taking out all there frustrations of the world by lining us up and slapping and hitting use kids very chance they got. It wasn’t just the 2 or 3 times a day that we where lined up that we where yield at and slapped around as hared as the 30 to 50 year old could slap us around. Any time your path crossed a staff person they would hall off and slap you across the face as hared as they could. But that was nothing compared to shower time when the House parents would reach their hand into your shower and tern the cold water completely off and the hot water on making you stand there burning in the hot water. They did in order so they could hit you as hared as they can with out leaving any bruises on there of 8 to 12 year old victims. Theses where daily currents for 7 years of my life. As bad as they where they where not as bad as my experiences with treatments for Post Traumatic Stress syndrome. The ETC destroyed me as a person and the medications gave me permanent tardeadiskonesea.

  • Duane Sherry, M.S.

    A wake-up call to the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI), the Treatment Advocacy Center, and other patient/”advocacy” groups:

    The long-term use of psychiatric drugs impedes recovery, and causes disability. Period.

    There are non-drug options…

    Lots of them -

    http://discoverandrecover.wordpress.com

    Duane Sherry, M.S.

  • http://discoverandrecover.wordpress.com Duane Sherry, M.S.

    A wake-up call to the National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI):

    The long-term use of psychiatric drugs impedes recovery, and causes disability. Period.

    Friends don’t let friends join NAMI.

    Duane Sherry, M.S.

    • Kbaker34t

      NAMI has support groups that help many people and they are a non-profit organization. I highly recommend NAMI for people suffering with a brain disease or have a family member who suffers. The support groups help tremendously.

  • http://none Pam

    People react to psych medicines in different ways. My son went on a new generation medicine when he was 20 after two hospitalizations. He gradually changed from very ill to well over the next nine years. He’s now off disability and working full time. Perhaps he would have gotten better on his own, but I think his few holidays from his primary medicine convinced him that he was better off with the prescription. It didn’t drug him; it allowed him to hold a job, feel more secure being with all types of people, and get an independent self-supporting life. That’s what he really wanted before and after his diagnosis of schizophrenia.

  • http://intothefaerywoods.blogspot.com Juliano

    In order to really understand how in the last 150 years this every growing ‘meds’ epidemic has continued into making BILLIONS of profits for the drug companies, and it being marketed (they spend millions on that. well…they can AFFORD to, right??) everywhere–you HAVE to research the philosophy behind it. You need to look at people/’thinkers’ from the past like Descartes, Wilhelm Wundt, Pavlov, etc—all contributing to a myth that animals and humans are machines.
    So many ‘loving’ parents now are SO dumbed down by all this propaganda that they willingly take their child to one of these ‘experts’ like a consumer takes their car to a mechanic and asks if it can be fixed and how long?…! THATS where’we’ at! People here who are accepting the mental illness myth, please look into its history. You are being had—BIG TIME. It is all about social control, and PROFITS, and is maintained via propaganda. As soon as you become AWARE of this propaganda it will cease to have effect. You will see through it.
    Now if you wonder what then could be solutions for all the various forms of psychosomatic distresses. Well understand that the pharma-psychiatrist cartel suppress alternative forms of help, and that their mechanistic model blames the person–believed to be a defective-machine, literally. So supporting them you continue this increasing oppression over all our and our CHILDRENS lives (we really REALLY owe it to our children to wake up to what is going on!). So this model blames the person, and this lets the system, the environment off the hook…..SEE? That is how it maintains itself. So take the ‘education’ system–that is usually taken for granted, but if you again checkout its history you will see it began as ENFORCED, and continues to be enforced. I ask you, is that natural? Yet you accept it as a given and will drug your children to accept it too. This is W R O N G. Please apply yourselves to research into all of this, that is all I encourage.
    When we see the roots of the problems we then have more power to solve what needs solving.

  • Brent Robbins

    Boston M.D.’s do not “refute” Whitaker’s argument. They provide counter-arguments, but they do not disprove Whitaker’s claims. Do not overstate the case of the Boston physicians. Remember, many M.D.’s have conflicts of interest due to financial ties to pharmaceutical industries.

  • http://www.siggyscafe.com/Blog Siggy

    My life was out of control. For seven years I was in and out of hospital(between 1965 and 1972) for a total of two years hospitalizations. Lithium put a ckeck on those breakdown although there was a price to pay: my kidney are not functioning well(I was pulled off of lithium in 1984). Tegretol replaced lithium. All that time I was maintained usually with two drugs(sometimes three). I was never on a cocktail of medication. The medication actually helped me. There are many people the medication doesn’t help. I am just lucky it does. I could not go on the way I was. It was too discouraging. I also saw a superb doctor for over ten years. It is not enough simply to take meds. Undestanding your situation takes a lifetime. And only some else can wealk you through it.

  • http://involuntarytransformation.blogspot.com Becky Murphy

    Robert Whitaker is a Science journalist. His thesis is well documented in my opinion. There were a couple comments made in this thread that accused him of being irresponsible for being “antimedication” which seems to infer that is a view expressed by Mr. Whitaker. This is not the case. In fact if you think about the reality of this issue; his work actually acknowledges the fact many claim that drugs helped, or still help them with no intolerable side-effects. On the other hand, psychiatry and advocacy groups fail to acknowledge survivors respectfully or civilly, who have experienced real harm and trauma, and belittle them and their valid complaints, more often than not.

  • jjhoward

    Psychiatric medicine and psychiatrists saved my psychotic son!

  • Anne

    According to Whitaker’s Mad in America site Nierenberg has served as a “retained consultant” for the following companies: Abbot Laboratories, AstraZeneca, Basilea Pharmaceutica; Brain Cells, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Eli Lilly, Epi-Q., Genaissance Pharmaceuticals, GlaxoSmithKline, Innapharma, Janssen Pharmaceutica, Jazz Pharmaceuticals, Merck, Novartis, Pfizer, PGxHealth, Schering-Plough, Sepracor, Shire, Somerset Pharmaceuticals, Takeda Pharmaceuticals, and Targacept.

    He has received grants/research support from Bristol-Myers Squibb, Cederroth, Cyberonics, Eli Lilly, Forest Laboratories, GlaxoSmithKline, Janssen Pharmaceutica, Lichtwer Pharma, Pfizer, Shire, and Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories.

    He has been a member of the speakers’ bureaus for Bristol-Myers Squibb, Cyberonics, Eli Lilly, Forest Laboratories, GlaxoSmithKline, Shire, and Wyeth-Ayerst Laboratories.

  • Woppok

    In his early thirties, and a married father of one, my younger brother was ‘diagnosed’ as ‘paranoid schizophrenic’ and hospitalised. At the psychiatric hospital in my presence (on a visit to see him) I witnessed an adverse reaction (incl twisted facial gestures and shaking body movements) that the poor guy had that evening to his cocktail of ‘medication’. The white-coated nurses apologised and reassured me that ‘he’d be OK’. My brother was discharged home soon afterwards with ‘support’ by occasional visits from a ‘community psychiatric nurse’ (CPN). My brother apparently (hearsay evidence at inquest from CPN) could not get along with this person who absented himself, did not advise his supervisors and left my brother to his own devices. Some weeks later he was found dead (hanged).

    I tend to believe that psychiatry poisoned my brother, abandoned him, refused to advise his loving family of his situation and thus (as good as) killed him. We – his three brothers – visited the hospital and were seen for 10 minutes by the doctor/psychiatrist treating my brother. All that person could say was that ‘the taboo was broken’ and that we, his siblings, were all at risk of suicide, presumably. At the inquest several medical testimonies were accepted nem con: no discussion or cross-examination was permitted by the coroner.

    Since then, over 20 years ago, I have achieved a PhD in the psychology school at an Irish university and now work as a psychotherapeutic consultant in suicidology. I welcome Robert Whitaker’s book. It is time to remove the financial shackles that inexorably bind psychiatry to the pharmacological industry making billions of dollars from the (mostly) unhealed misery of thousands of people, most of whom would be more compassionately and successfully cared for by psychotherapists expert in the humanistic therapies.

    Psychopharmocology is a cheapskate sticking plaster that soaks up billions of dollars for vested interests. It may seem to temporarily may mask out the reality of clients’ agonising human pain of living but the psycho-medication industry and its supporters appear to have no objection to getting people as ‘hooked on drugs’ as any junkie. Time for humane doctors and nurses and all in the caring professions to wise up and learn how to heal people, including themselves, by ‘doing no harm’ through compassionate, empathic, therapeutic relationships.

    • Paul Jamison

      Let’s get together to create 24/7 places to be with suicidal people providing them with empathy and compassion rather than the “controlled” stigmatic environment of a psychiatric emergency room.

  • http://selfgrowth.com/experts/dan_edmunds.html Dan L. Edmunds, Ed.D.

    When a distressed person enters the realm of modern psychiatric practice they are first confronted with what Laing terms as the ‘psychiatric ceremonial’. In this process, the experience of the person is not considered. Rather, the psychiatrist sits in a place of judgment, he being considered sane and stable, and determines by his subjective observation of behavior how the person is a deviant from what should be expected of him or her and then categorizes it and assigns it a label. There is no concern for the person’s experience, rather the person is seen as an ‘it’, as an object whose behavior is to be analyzed. Science is only able to examine what is, not what will be. It is based on duplication of results, but can we duplicate experience. When we merely look at behavior without understanding the context of it, we draw false conclusions. Understanding the context may lead us to see that the behavior is not truly meaningless after all. Frankl states, “An incurably psychotic individual may lose his usefulness but yet retain the dignity of a human being…a doctor, who would still interpret his role mainly as that of a technician would confess that he sees in his patient nothing more than a machine…but man is ultimately self-determining.”
    Laing states, “behavior therapy is the most extreme example of such schizoid theory and practice and proposes to think and act purely in terms of the other without reference to the self of the therapist or the patient, in terms of behavior without experience, in terms of objects rather than persons. It is inevitably therefore a technique of nonmeeting, of manipulation, and social control.’ Experience is the soul of psychotherapy and we should note that the term psychotherapy literally means the ‘healing of the soul’. The therapeutic process should be a meeting of two human beings, it should be the sharing and understanding of experience. Laing states that “I see you and you see me. I experience you, and you experience me. I see your behavior and you see my behavior. But I do not and never will see your experience of me.” It is popular today to look at individuals’ behaviors merely as the result of chemical processes or the effects of so called chemical imbalances. But then we must ask the question as Laing did- do chemicals come together because they love each other? Do atoms explode because they hate one another?
    So often we seek to ignore experience. Laing notes the invalidation of experience by such comments as ‘that never happened’, or the trivialization of
    experience, or to invalidate its content by such words as “it wasn’t really that way’ or ‘how can you think such a thing?” We must realize that we exist in an existential vacuum, and it is these things that lead to the development of aggression, addiction, depression. Our behaviors are how we communicate distress; they are for some the only form of communication they know. Their behaviors communicate to us a glimpse of their experience. “If our experience is destroyed, our behavior will be destructive. If our experience is destroyed, we will have lost our selves (pg.28).” The therapeutic process is a shamanic voyage, a journeying with another person. But can two human beings truly come together? Are there too many barriers? Can we put aside our affiliations, our ethnicities, our religions, and all the other things that set us apart? Can we come together completely bare and share in the human condition?

    -Dan L. Edmunds, Ed.D.
    http://selfgrowth.com/expers/dan_edmunds.html

    • D.Burdick

      That aloofness is a stance of Authority which is for the benefit of the Doctor HE is trained to know HE is something. “And He Shall Rule Over Thee” is an article on the Malleus Maleficarum.
      Legal Authorities detecting the illegal, the different - those operating outside of church and prince Mandate, they have The Authority as this comes from a supra-natural realm of ultimate reality. (IE, our Society is based on torture and insanity.) When you use the word “subjective” that is your assesment (like my saying insane) but don’t confuse this - the Psychiatrist is Objective. They are Scientific. They are Authority.

       The  psychiatric ceremonial where one appears before their desk, pen, tape recorder,  receptionist, suit and the D.S.M. is their Scientific Investigation of the natural  phenomena. From an aloof Rational non-interfering analytical Objective standpoint they look down on, explain and examine their Subject, the phenomina. Their Professional Opinion is the Diagnosis, this is based on Clinical Interview, “Psychometric Tests,” The D.S.M. and other authoritative books from the Ivory Towers. The Neutonian Scientific Method is aloof and objective. They are Rational and their Charges are Irrational, Disreputable, Subjective and Disordered/ly. Psych Treatments are concrete material and quanitifiable – doses of drugging pharmakeia chemicals – doses of electricity through the temples. Psychiatry is a mixture of such social messages all terrible.

      Quantifiable phenomena Newtonian, Authoritative Prominate. Aloof rational objective

      They supressed actual Chemical treatment in 1973 with the Task Force #7 Report on Orthomolecular. Instead of using modern Psychiatric  chemical treatment it is wholely excluded (as apostate) and Magical demon-banishing punishing-control medicines are used. Only by completely excluding antioxidants, amino acids B-Vitamins and so forth can they pretend this charade makes sence. Diagnosis is by “Psychological eval” and treatment is by psychotropic neurotoxic drugging chemicals. Drug the Psyche. Thats Medicine. Believe it – or You may be Next. Life in the Dark Ages – the Dark Ages are not over (Kurt Vonnegut). Most of their Neuro drugging agents could be considered and even used in an honest way. This would involve having them (and other Different drug agents) viewed as part of a range of chemical treatments (rather than the occult-belief-system, ‘Neuropsychopharmacology,’ now foisted) with the Central chemical treatment items… not containing a Halogen, not being Patented… and being similar to biochemicals.

      Drug chemicals (without Fluorine) exist in Nature too. In Traditional Medicine (Herbalism) drug-agents such as Strictnine are used advisedly whereas powerful-enough non-drug Medicines are more central. The differention here is fairly clear, and reasonable (This is a good Current Idea rather than longstanding) so-called Drugs would be powerful,  toxic, xenobiotic, fast acting, and act by monkey-wrenching chemical operations in the host or the disease while Other Medicines are those of a more biological, non-toxic, synergistic  nature that influences rather than monkey-wrenches. Curcumin and Digitalis. Ginkgo 24% and Haldol.
      Dan Burdick, USA

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4QA6L47YUH45LUTAY4XE2HZJY Elliander

      That’s very apt.

      Scientifically speaking we should consider that the Doctor’s presence is influencing the subject and therefore is influencing the observation. It should also be noted that a child is much less likely to open up in such a scenario. A child might simply be acting out because of abuse. There are many possible causes of problems that can be determined.

      Mental Illness is interesting in that it is the only accepted field of medicine which cannot be proven. No one can even prove the existence of mental illness. Back when drugs first started to be used Doctors believed that a brain was just the way it is and doesn’t change. In reality Neuroplasticity shows us how a mind can change completely within 21 days given the right environment. When a child is put in an environment of drugs and observations that child is developing new neural pathways to cope with the experience. Social norms learned in abnormal environments are taken with the child well into adulthood.

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  • MH

    It is incredibly frustrating that the above blurb would end with the claim, “Whitaker’s claims are refuted by academic psychiatrists here in Boston.” It can be assumed that this blanket statement is based on Dr. Nierenberg’s perspective, ignoring other views on the issue. For Mr. Whitaker’s response: http://www.madinamerica.com/madinamerica.com/Answering%20critics.html

    For another MD’s perspective: http://carlatpsychiatry.blogspot.com/2011/01/robert-whitakers-anatomy-of-epidemic.html

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L4QA6L47YUH45LUTAY4XE2HZJY Elliander

    It’s actually pretty obvious: Children need to learn impulse control. They don’t automatically have it. If you give drugs to a child who is hyper active these drugs will prevent that child from learning properly. (often times a simple change in diet could curb the hyper active tendencies anyway). Many children given drugs at such a young age develop nervous ticks and problems such as anxiety and depression. These are all known side effects and can persist long after the drugs have been removed from the system… that is assuming the children even survive. A child is now more likely to die from Psychiatric Drug overdose than to be kidnapped and murdered.

  • Kingdomseeker49

    Hi im anthony yoder. i am trying to find everyone i can who has successfully gotten off anti psychotics for good..i mean years. and in particular those who stay off and also find they are not absolutely miserable..

    if any of you have yourselves, or know of the right site to look PLEASE tell me. good wishes and God bless.

    my email is kingdomseeker49@yahoo.com

    • MarilynL577

      I went cold turkey off of Lamictal and Celexa nearly 2 years ago when the staff at the local loony-mill agitated my “disorders” so terribly during appointments to get about $1000 worth of those meds that I couldn’t make myself ever set foot on the property again. I have improved. Not as many “episodes”, suicidal thoughts, mood swings, erratic behaviors,etc. I rarely get depressed, often get “hypomanic” which I think is not a disorder or symptom at all, but rather HAPPINESS that I’m finally able to experience now that they aren’t pumping me full of suicide pills that eventually cause cancer if they don’t succeed in making you blow your brains out first. I actually *do* have breast cancer now. I was on psychs since I was 12 years old (age 36 now). I just found out on May 6th I have it. My bday was/is May 7th.lmao! Smh. Of course, I have noticed how “okay” I’ve been since stopping the meds…only to end up with cancer during the happiest time of my life. Being a bit of a conspiracy realist, I thought, “Could the drugs they give so eagerly be the backup plan for ppl who don’t off themselves as planned…put a little cancer in those psych drugs just in case catches on and discontinues treatment for the illnesses we made up? Because I have always questioned authority (think about that…if a kid stands up for their self too much, speaks out about things, doesn’t quietly obey, bring that future Libertarian in and we’ll fix that for ya!)

  • http://www.facebook.com/dwmccannon David Wayne McCannon

    Robert Whitaker is correct about that these drugs make mental illness worse and increase the rate of disability.  I am one of the 4 million Americans on disability for mental illness.  Big Pharma and Psychiatry will deny this because the drugs are their main source of profit. 

  • Hans

    go to www.cchr.org/videos.html and watch the videos. This will answer all questions.

  • stop

    …………. the psychiatric drugs don’t cause mental illness……… the reason why there are more people with mental illness is due to culmination of factors, such as people being prescribed more and an increased awareness of mental illness. 

  • Hans

    There is no medication that will handle any “mental illness”.

    go to www.cchr.org/videos.html and watch the videos. This will answer all questions.

  • Tph370

    I wonder why there are not “emotional care centers’ or “empathy centers” for people to go to when suicidal rather than psychiatric emergency rooms?  Instead of mental illness, I think, it’s bottled up emotions, and empathy can help stir these emotions to want to live again.

  • Sarahrebecca58

    I’m actually living testimony that someone with clinical depression does not necessarily need to be on anti-depressants. They key is good therapy, and not having a pushy therapist that tries to tell push asperges on you even though you don’t suffer the symptoms.

  • Daniel Burdick

    “Imipramine is used to treat symptoms of depression.” “Imipramine affects chemicals in the brain that may become unbalanced.”  That’s a short typical drug company version of “depression” and “the medication”. The NAMI and APA and NIMH version has been the same. Your brain is your mind and it is a mechanical mechanism -like an orange clockwork. It is made of materials, mechanistic parts like billiard balls bouncing in space, levers, rods, pistons, valves. The chemical in the pill acts like an ocean seal that actively balances the Newtonian space balls on its nose. Stick with the seal and you’ll be AOK. The pill chemical is like a green round smiley decal that glues onto the sadness molecules in your broken brain and makes your mind happy – like a nicely running automobile.

    For a car analogy check out the video Recovery in Mental Health Redefined PsycheTruth !

    These are capitalist market products and this capitalism is not controlled, not balanced. Governments and its Medical oversight agencies such as the MHRA and FDA (and the free equal citizens) have been seized by the capitalist corporate counterintelligence. World Megacorporations have replaced sovereign Nations and Peoples. They act like bratty Burgomeisters. Tell them about BF Skinner and they’ll say great – I ill be the uncontrolled controller and I will train all those animals out there beyond the castle walls. Tell them about capitalism and they say, Great I will have a thousand billion dollars and the others will be my worker serfs. Tell them about Darwin and they say great I’ll be in charge of categorizing those unfit, and undertake to engineer humans to be like me superior.

    Tell then about alpha males and everybody else, all nations, races, peoples, individuals can be a subordinates. No Reason but if there’s a game – then one tries to be the winner, right?

    They are the international financier character in Kurt Vonnegut’s Gallapagos, the sociopath in Vonnegut’s Hocus Pocus who leads the men from the prison break to take over the neighboring town this can only result in catastrophe for everyone but they are taking charge, women are attracted to them, they are leading, they look great and are taking flashy action. Napolean atempt to take over Europe! Look at him on his horse. (INcidental 10000 die horribly in just one “campaign of Napoleon” – but hey – they are nameless bit players in the Drama of the Man.

    To win at being the vastly monetary and power profiting source of Chemotherapy for Psychiatric Symptoms their counterintel operations undertake to rig the system or systems in all ways that are present themselves as necessary or as creative opportunity ideas to pursue and exploit.

    In the 1950′s some of their Doctor’s began researching chemotherapy in Psychiatry using the newly advancing scientific  knowledge of biochemistry and nutritional and plant chemistry. Instead of just amphetamine, bromide, imipramine, thorazine and barbiturate they thought of using antioxidants, B-vitamins, manganese, zinc, and aminoacids. These Doctors their best Doctors in the chemotherapy wing of Psychiatry were actually proposing finding real Medical Tests for underlying real “chemical imbalances,” they were suggesting using cheap non-Patentable chemicals that wouldn’t be too unfamiliar to the body as chemical treatments! This started 2 years after Indusrt Intelligence had such a ringing success in their devised marketing plan for Thorazine. The cards were on the tabble plain to see – tens of billions of dollars to be made in a money tidal wave for decades in a row! The Golden Dawn of the New Age of Pssychopharmacologic Treatments in Psychiatry was at hand. Reach out and grab the cash! Thorazine is the Sacred Symbol, The Holy Golden Money-Milking Cow! And these bastard Doctors are suggesting actually Medically treating the patients, studying how to do this, right at the starting gate. Well to hell with them.

    Before 1967 the work of the best Researcher Clinicians in chemotherapy in Psychiatry was increasing quietly ignored. Then in 1973 the Task Force 7 Report  was synthesized by industry/Medical counterintelligence. This 58 page hatchet job said that for all time past present and future the work by the Orthomolecular Psychiatrists lacked scientific evidence and credibility. It was mistaken, unscientific, did not stand up to Scientific Peer Review, self aggrandizing, wrong and or fraudulent.

    The Task Force 7 Report to the APA is not available to read at the APAs Task Force Report list online. The TF7 is used by Psychiatric Books as the key reference that the once hopeful Orthomolecular work did not pan out. It was a mistaken failure.

    See Abram Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D. final words,  Rose My Wife by Abram Hoffer

    Industry intelligence got  load of RD Laing saying Psychiatry as a fake science.  Looking over the situation they devised the DSM3. They would state endlessly a certain stance, a certain small group of irrational propositions over and over and over (Goebbel’s “big lie”)
    the DSM3 is reliable and Scientific. With it the Authority Official looks objectively at the subject and selects them into Official categories of social psychological devience. This is done in a standardized objective fashion, nothing subjective and theoretical about the internal psychological condition of the subject under consideration. A Nosology, a naming categorization system done ny Authorities is what Diagnosis of Psychiatric Conditions is. Diagnose Psychologically with Psychological Word Tests, and The Professional Opinion of The Clinician. Therapy is Medical Treatment. Concrete material repeatable Medical Treatments – IE, intervention with ongoing centrally acting drug medications, ongoing electroshock treatments and psychosurgy. The 3 subspecialties of Psychiatry study and Medical treament.

    See video: RD Laing The Trap

    So they denounced and outcast the chemotherapy treatment and biochemical testing Psychiatrists in the 1970′s.

    The created the DSM3 in the 1970′s in this they got rid of post Freudian terminology, words such as complexes and neuroses, henceforth the would all be eemploying the “medical model,” in which deviance from normalcy would be treated with the model that it was a medical problem representing some medical lesion that the psychotropic patent chemicals hypothetically acted on.

    Industry Counterintelligence also found the nascent NAMI Grassroots. In 1977
    the Alliance for the Mentally Ill was created, the next year they made a  Conference in California to which the counterintelligence operatives landed en masse, like Nazgul riding in.

    Recently the Republican Senator for Iowa showed that NAMI is an industry front group by revealing the Industry funding. This was long obvious by he NAMI “independent Grassroot” support for every drug and all legislation that would enrich Big Pharma and Big Medicine’s leadership 9and their super rich owner.)

    See google, NAMI Charles Grassly Vera Sharav

    Besides Scientology which people are trained to distrust, other opponents of Psychiatry’s poisoning of our nation for profit and cooptation of Medicine their are Psychosocial Theorists. These Psychosocial Theorists include Ty Colbert, Ph.D. author of Broken Brain’s or Wounded Hearts, 1996; Thomas Szasz, M.D. author of  Schizophrenia: Sacred Symbol of Psychiatry; Robert Whitaker author of Anatomy of an Epidemic; Anatomy of an Epidemic: Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs, and the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America 2010; and Peter Breggin, M.D. author of Talking Back to Ritalin 2001. In their analysis of things Medical treatment with Psychotropic drugs is dominating the field to bad effect and a holistic non-Medical approach is called for.  Thomas Szasz refered to Orthomolecular Doctors by name in a book and denounced their works. (Szasz did not refer to the Psychopharmacology representative doctors by name not even Dr. Klein.) Robert Whitaker does not include the suppression of Orthomolecular in his historical assessment of developments in Psychiatry.  According to Whitaker the evidence sighted for medical treatment in Psychiatry needs criticism and furthermore the Medical evidence actually in fact shows that the Medical treatment approach is working badly. According to Whitaker the Medical evidence for the Orthomolecular biochemical therapies which he doesn’t reference or refer to in his work  has not been funded and does not exist. When it is brought to his attention that Merrily Manthey, M.S. and Andrrew W. Saul, Ph.D. can certainly direct him to the Medical evidence Robert doesn’t care. Peter Breggin, M.D. and the ISCPP were begged for years by numerous not to exclude Biochemical Knowledge from their histories. I wrote an email Christmas 2000 on the treatments that Orthomolecular knows about for Tardive Dyskniesia which Breggin covered and fought about and refered to as untreatable. Breggin cares about TD and its victims but not about Manganese Vitamin E and C. What give?! Peter and Ginger Breggin in their book Talking Back to Ritalin in an execrable couple pages state that people have been writing expecting them to agree, but the use of special diets and supplements for children is as wrong headed as psychoanalysts.  The value such as it is of parents and other adults subjecting children to some dietary regime is a psychosocial one only the Breggins informs us. Such imposed regimes represent a structure of some-sort imposed by the Adults, it shows that the adults are thinking about and concerned for the welfare of the children and doing something about it, wrongheaded though it is it has some psychological value and may help the children in this way.  A reasonable apporoach would be superior though of course. Writing for years expecting them to agree! Now there’s dialogue, years late., a couple arogant dismisive pages without references.

    2010 Robert Whitaker states, “I think we can all agree that the honest communication of scientific results is essential to good medicine, and essential to helping people make informed choices about what is best for them. ”

    See, democratic underground The truth about schizophrenia

    “How many peoples’ lives would have been completely different had this knowledge

    not been overlooked, not studied, ignored, tossed away, and generally dissed by

    those in whom we entrust our wellness. It irks me no end that it took this long

    for this research to be done. How I could have benefitted from it years ago.”

    By not including people such as Andrew Saul, Ph.D., Stephenn M. Eldeman, Ph.D.  Merriley Manthey, M.S. and Margot Kidder when they have conferences with panel speakers the people who supposedly support a change for the better in Mental Health Treatment do a great disservice. When pointedly refusing to include the history of the suppression of biochemical therapies in Psychiaty in their historical explanatory works these people undermine hope of needed improvement. A house divided falls.

    Medline Bias: Update by Andrew W. Saul

    Want to be a MEDLINE Information Censor?

    Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, January 28, 2010

    Andrew Saul

    “A Message of Hope”  Telly-award winner in Health and
    Medicine DVD with Merrily Manthey, M.S.

    The Role of Amino Acids in Bipolar Disorder and Mental Health  by Actress Margot Kidder 

    Natural Mental Health Cures – Orthomolecular Psychiatry by Dr. Vincent Bellozi 

    Wellness Hour with Dr Cass   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR_hfDQKGSk

    Book Review: Nutrition and Physical Degeneration by Weston A Price
    By Sally Fallon

    SCHIZOPHRENIA
    An Article based on Robert Whitaker’s Works and Other Sources
    by John Phellps, in this article we seen the History being told in a Scholarly
    fashion different than the Social Mileau Theorists increasingly pointedly
    tacitly stilted treatments.
    http://www.benjaminrushamendment.net/SCHIZOPHRENIA.doc
    (Search: John Phillips Schizophrenia Quakers Moral Treatment Soteria Mosher
    Whitaker Mad in America Abram Hoffer)

    International
    variations in the outcome of schizophrenia and the prevalence of depression in
    relation to national dietary practices: an ecological
    analysis  Malcolm Peet, FRCPsych

    Nutrition Discussion Forum. Why do we not make more medical use of nutritional knowledge? David Horrobin, M.D. 2003

    Optimal Dosing for Scizophrenia  Raymond J. Pataracchia, BSc., N.D 

    Natural Healing for Bipolar Disorder:  A Compendium of Nutritional Approachesbook by Eva Edelman 2010

    APA 1973, “It must be based on demonstrable biochemical defects”

    When the NIMH/APA Psychiatry and drug company leadership officially  invalidated Linus Pauling, Abram Hoffer, M.D. and the rest with the 58 page Task Force 7 scientific peer review Report they wrote this. Quote:

    The 1973 Task Force #7 Report to the American Psychiatric Association on Orthomolecular and Megavitamin Therapies in Psychiatry

         Socially desirable outcomes have sometimes been derived from myths or fervently held beliefs. To this extent the orthomolecular movement in psychiatry may be socially useful. But if psychiatry is to become and remain scientific, it must meet the test of scientific validity. Nicotinic acid therapy does not do so at this time. If there is to be wide professional acceptance of a megavitamin or orthomolecular treatment program, it must be based on demonstrable biochemical defects in this condition and upon adequately designed and carefully executed clinical experiments with data presented to the professional and scientific community in an acceptable fashion. Such publications have not appeared from proponents of the orthomolecular approach for many years.

          In the end the credibility of the megavitamin proponents and the orthomolecular psychiatrists becomes the crucial issue because it is never possible to fully prove or disprove a therapeutic procedure. Rather the theory and practice gain or lose credibility as its premises, methods, and results are examined, and attempts are made at clinical replication by independent investigators. This review and critique has carefully examined the literature produced by mega-vitamin proponents and those who have attempted to replicate their basic and clinical work. It concludes that in this regard the creditability of megavitamin proponents is low.

          Their credibility is further diminished by a consistent refusal over the past decade to perform controlled experiments and to report their new results in a scientifically acceptable fashion.

          Under these circumstances this Task Force considers the massive publicity which they promulgate via radio, the lay press and popular books, using catch phrases which are really misnomers like “megavitamin therapy” and “orthomolecular treatment” to be deplorable.

     

     

  • Neil

    So many reports point out the statistical increase in mental illness beginning in about 1988. This was also about the time that SSRI medications began being used on a widespread basis.

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